2020-12-22-Interview with Dr Andrew Kaufman

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well hello everyone
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i’ve got a really really really special
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guest with me today i’m so excited
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welcome dr andrew kaufman lovely to see
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you thank you ever so much for
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for giving me your time how are things
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with you
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um things are holding steady catherine
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how about yourself yeah i’m good i mean
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under the circumstances i’m actually
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pretty positive about things as as they
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go you know moving forward but um
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yeah i’m trying to remain positive and
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um
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it looks like the media are tripping
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themselves a lot at the moment is waking
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a lot of people up which is brilliant
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it’s fantastic
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um but before we go on if you wouldn’t
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just if you just mind
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giving us giving my viewers your
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credentials
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oh yeah sure catherine um i am a
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physician a medical doctor
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um i did my training in forensic
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psychiatry
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and that’s what i specialized earlier in
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my career i worked as a physician
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assistant in oncology
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and then previously to that i did
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research for
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in public health for the cdc and the new
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york health department
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and also in the biotech and
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pharmaceutical industry
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so i kind of have a lot of different
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experiences in
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healthcare and medicine and in my
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forensic work
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i did a lot of sort of investigative
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work like um i was asked to be
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maybe an expert witness or a consultant
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for some kind of legal or administrative
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matter
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and then i was given mountains of
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records uh to go through and find
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bits of evidence you know that would
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support an opinion about an important
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question like you know okay could
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someone
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suicide have been prevented or you know
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was someone
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legally insane at the time they murdered
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someone else you know questions like
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that
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but that kind of thinking i think really
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helped prepare me
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uh to investigate and you know uncover
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some of the fundamental
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um truths or misconceptions uh
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underlying the pandemic situation yeah
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fantastic
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so you know misconception i like that um
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we’re just going forward now because i
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just thought i’ll get straight into this
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because from my point of view
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and yours um i think the whole thing
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really boils down to
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the isolation of this so-called virus
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because
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in my opinion without the isolation and
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purification
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and detect you know even detecting it at
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this point
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how can we even move forward from that
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as far as i was away looking into
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viruses you know there’s
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the postulates that can be used you
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know obviously if the first one falls
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then all three will fall anyway
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it doesn’t apply to any of those but
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even the is it the
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density gradient centrifuge as well that
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isolation technique
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in my and i’ve see i’ve looked at
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studies i’ve read them
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and as far as i can see i i can’t see
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anywhere
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where any of this has even taken place
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for
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sars carve 2 or while they call it or
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even stars carve one but you know sales
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cough ii
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what would you what’s your professional
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opinion on that doctor
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well catherine you certainly brought up
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a lot of important points
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uh there it’s clear that you’ve done a
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lot of research
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i try to look at the overall picture as
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being sort of levels of knowledge or
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information
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and you know really you can look at any
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area of science like this
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and what i initially my approach was to
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look at things you know at the surface
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level
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so when i was practicing medicine you
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know conventional allopathic medicine
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i observed what happened with the
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patients that i
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was treating and these were mostly you
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know people with like depression or
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anxiety or
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or manic episodes or psychosis
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and i was you know told to treat them
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with various different medications
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and in observing what happened is i saw
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that in almost every case
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the person didn’t improve or they didn’t
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they didn’t respond they certainly there
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were no cures
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so but that was at a very high level it
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didn’t have anything to do with what you
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know what is mental illness
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at the underlying level um but
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so i started there and then i drilled
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down you know layer by layer and this
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unfolded for me in a very organic way
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over a period of years
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but what i did find is that the deeper i
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got
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i found that there were fundamental
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flaws
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in what we’ve been taught in fact in
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many cases
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what the prevailing theory is is
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actually the opposite of what is most
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likely to be the truth
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so when this pandemic started to make
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waves in china and internationally and i
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saw people
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at the san francisco airport wearing
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face masks in february
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i said all right i need to drill down to
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the basic level because
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all of the information that you’re told
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like how many
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you know people are infected or dying of
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this or what
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what the illness is or all the policies
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there
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all have to be based on a fundamental
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piece of information
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right which is they tell us that there
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is a virus and it causes this
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new illness and but if that’s
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not really true then everything that’s
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built on it just crumbles down like a
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house of cards
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whereas if you just look at okay some
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obvious things at the superficial level
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like hmm
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why aren’t there any excess deaths as a
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result of a worldwide
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public health crisis you know then then
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that
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ass leads you to answer you know ask
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many more questions but it doesn’t
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really tell you what’s at the root of
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the whole
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issue and then if another virus comes
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along or they say that this one is
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mutated and then
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more people die you will then take it
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seriously and think that that it’s a
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real virus if you didn’t look and drill
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down to that basic uh level of
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information
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so when i decided to do this
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i pulled up the papers where they have
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claimed to
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you know isolated that’s the word they
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use isolate i’ll put that in quotations
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because
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they have created a different definition
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of that word
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but but they use that word and it’s
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commonly mis
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misconceived to mean they actually
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separated it from other things and had
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it by itself
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was just astonished to to find what
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what they had done in their experiments
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because
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it didn’t prove anything so in other
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words they never like
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pulled the fluid out of a sick person
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and then
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separated the virus out of that and said
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here here’s a virus
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that that’s never been done instead
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they do this crazy procedure where they
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put the body fluid in with a bunch of uh
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talk like toxic chemicals and
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some foreign cells and then then they
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show those cells
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dying and they say oh there’s the virus
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it’s
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you know totally crazy so
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you know when i drilled down to the
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other experiments they did like how they
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determine the
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testing sequences for the pcr and when
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they claim that they
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sequence the whole genome of the virus
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and then even when they claim to satisfy
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coax postulates which is the
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simple set of common sense rules when
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how you prove that a germ causes an
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illness
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and all you do is you take the germ out
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of someone who’s sick
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and then put it in someone who’s healthy
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or a healthy animal and then you they
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get the same disease you know very
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simple to do
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but and there are articles saying that
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they’ve done all these things but when
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you actually
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read the experiments you see that
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they did no such thing in fact not even
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close
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to the thing in some cases at every
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single level
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that they claim to show evidence of
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something it doesn’t
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yeah it’s uh you know and they don’t
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apply any statistical analysis many
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times they don’t do
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any control experiments so it’s
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basically some of the worst quality
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science
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i’ve seen like if you uh put this
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experiment
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into you know like an introductory lab
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course
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uh you know at mit in in science
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um unless the professor was a virologist
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they would say what the heck is this you
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know
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there’s no control experiment uh you you
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know you can’t prove what you say by the
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methods
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it was really really shoddy science um
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yeah and so that’s really what i
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uncovered and so everything else
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you know has to be false because it’s
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based on that false construct
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yeah and that’s that’s exactly how i
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feel about it as well nothing
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can come from something that isn’t there
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in in essence and
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it’s the same sort of thing when i was
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looking into how
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how you know even just the basics of
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virology and how it’s
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it’s all kind of based on a on a on a
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flawed theory
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and then you know you realize how deep
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it goes in terms of
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well why aren’t any virologists talk
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about there are some that talk about it
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as we know
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but you know you realize how deep the
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net is in terms of
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who’s controlling the funding and you
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know you sort of just get
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used to misinterpreting something and
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then just carrying that forward because
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essentially
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what they’re doing is they’re
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misinterpreting what they’re seeing
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when they try and take that the virus
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out of the body because in you know
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through my research
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when it’s inside the body it’s there
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specifically
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for a reason it can call up on you know
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a part of the bacteria and microbes and
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the cells are talking to each other like
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oil right together before you get into
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that
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you have to um first specify what’s the
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it you’re talking about
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that does those things yeah um right
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because
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you know what they so you know the word
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virus itself
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means poison right now
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and that was the way it was used in
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virus theory until
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really the 1950s that’s the first time
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that they
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thought about that it could be an
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organism with its own genetics
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because at that time there was the dna
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double helix
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had been reported and there was all
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kinds of new thinking about
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the role of genetics in biology
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so i’m not sure what you’re talking
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about there but in terms of like
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have they ever shown a microscopic
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particle that they call a virus
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to actually come from people with an
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illness and then
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demonstrate experimentally that it
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causes that illness
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they’ve actually never done those
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experiments successfully with any
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uh virus that they say causes disease so
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um it’s really important when you’re
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talking about this stuff to be very
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clear
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uh you know about what you’re saying
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because i find that even
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with the people with the most expertise
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um like it’s really confusing
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when you use the word virus what do you
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what are you referring to exactly
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um and you know same thing with other
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terms like even germ
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the word germ really refers to new
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growth
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new life budding uh things right and
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that’s why you
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call like germ cells or the cells that
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make new life like the
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uh sperm cells and the egg cells yeah so
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you kind of invert the meaning of germ
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to say that it’s a microorganism that
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invades and causes disease
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yeah uh so so there’s a lot of um
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you know important obfuscation i think
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with these words
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and it’s very tricky to navigate yeah so
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going back to that end where would you
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say when you say
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exosomes what are you referring to with
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that can you tell the viewers what are
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you what are you actually talking about
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and there
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and you know what one exosome actually
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does what what is purposes
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in the body right well exosomes were
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you know discovered somewhere around 30
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years ago
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and essentially they’re they’re the same
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as they say the viral particles are
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in size and appearance and in what they
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contain
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in that they contain genetic material
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and there’s a whole field of biology
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that does exosome research and it’s very
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closely related to
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virus research and in fact there’s some
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crossover of scientists and there are
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several scientists who
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in their papers have compared viruses
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and exosomes
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even saying that they’re the same thing
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in some cases
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but what they say the exosome is is that
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it’s basically a particle that comes off
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of our own cells
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in other words it’s a human um uh
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product
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okay so it’s not you know any other
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organism
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or it doesn’t come from anywhere else
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but it’s it’s our a piece of our own
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body
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and essentially what they’re theorized
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to be and you know
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it’s not conclusively known by anyone
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the the true role of exosomes but they
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but what they think they are basically
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packets of information
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so just imagine you know having a parcel
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uh that has a letter in it right or or a
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secret code maybe
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and you know you put that in in the
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package and on the package you write an
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address label
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and the address label would be like the
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receptor of an exosome
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and it targets it to another part of
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your body like
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let’s say that you accidentally eat
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poisonous mushrooms
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okay so they start to damage the cells
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in your
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in your intestine let’s say
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theoretically
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and then your intestine makes exosomes
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which are just small little bits of its
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membrane that pinch off into little like
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water balloons
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but they put some rna or dna inside
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there
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which has that’s the code of information
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and then
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there’s a receptor which is like the
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address label and let’s say it targets
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it to the liver
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right and it tells the liver okay make a
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lot of glutathione
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or other liver enzymes to basically
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neutralize the poison
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from the mushrooms right so that would
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be now that’s not an experiment i made
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that up but that would be
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theoretically how they would work right
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so they send information
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and they have done very good research on
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exosomes like
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for example what i described that you
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would do with a virus where you take it
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out of the body fluid and then
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you know separate it and show you just
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have this virus
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well with exosomes they do that in fact
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you can find
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papers that just describe techniques on
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how to purify exosomes out of body
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fluids
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and they’re usually based on uh what
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they call ultra
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centrifugation which is you know a
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centrifuge everybody’s familiar with
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that it just spins around
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well they they usually use a density
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gradient which is just
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a liquid with things of different
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density and then
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the particles or exosomes would separate
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a specific way
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but they also use even fancier molecular
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techniques like flow cytometry where
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they would know what receptor is on the
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exosome that address label
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and they would basically put the lock
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and key to that address label
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and use that to separate out the things
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that had that address label only
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um and uh so very sophisticated and you
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can find lots of papers where they took
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exosomes out of a body fluid and
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purified them out
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show them under the electron microscope
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where everything you see there
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is a is a uniform particle that looks
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identical
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and then they can actually characterize
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the proteins and other molecules that
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make up the membrane and what’s inside
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and they can take out the genetic
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material
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and know that they got it from that
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particle and then sequence it
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and so like i saw one study where they
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did this and they found that it had
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ribosomal rna in it which is uh you know
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from
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the mechanism that makes proteins
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right and that that information was
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contained inside an exosome
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so so with exosomes they’ve done like
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the real experiments yeah they’ve done
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the
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science yeah right and shown it to be
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you know shown it to be a real thing
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yeah um and uh so this is like
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this is the standard of experiment that
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they they could do the same thing
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yeah you know with viruses but the thing
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is what what i think the real reason is
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is because there simply are no viruses
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so if they tried to use these techniques
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and by the way they did
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use these techniques back in the 40s and
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early 50s
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and they were never successful at
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isolating a particle that was uniform
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so you know really we have no prima
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facie evidence
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of the existence of these viral
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particles
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yeah this is something i noticed as well
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when i was researching polio
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a long time ago so in in terms of the
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you know the isolation there is no
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isolation of iris
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with the ppr testing well let me just
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make one more uh point about exit songs
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if i may
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yeah because um what i really observed
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about exosomes initially that i think
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was important is that when they do those
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so-called isolation experiments where
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they have that toxic cell culture
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they show the dying cells and when cells
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die
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one of the things they do is they make
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lots of exosomes and it’s like
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think of it as like a distress signal
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right and um so
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when they show little particles under
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the microscope mixed up with all these
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cells in the culture like nothing’s
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purified out
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you know how do you know they’re not
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just showing exosomes
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because we know exosomes would be there
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we know they look identical to the virus
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and we know they exist they right
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exactly
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so you’d have you’d have to account for
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them like you’d have to at a minimum
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ask that microscopist say okay you’re
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pointing to this particle as being a
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virus
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where are the exosomes show me those
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like put arrows for those
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so then show me how they’re different
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right and how you can prove that you
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know or where’s the experimental proof
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of that you know with a chemical test or
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some other test that’s a little that
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could back it up or is more definitive
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yeah right so
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you know that’s what’s missing yeah that
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makes
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sense it makes sense to me
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um yeah so you know the whole thing
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that’s driving this
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is no doubt about it is this the pcr
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test
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which you know carrie mullis obviously
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invented a long time ago and
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and knew how it was being misinterpreted
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not misused because as an amplification
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tool
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it will amplify whatever whatever it
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sees but in terms of
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you know what they’re actually looking
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at and what is being amplified in this
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test which is
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you know force it driving these false
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positives up you know people who are
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asymptomatic or just healthy people
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are testing positive um which is then
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justifying
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our lockdowns and you know we’re in the
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uk in wales in the uk so we
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were locked down from midnight on
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saturday which i’m just convinced they
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wanted to bring that vibe down ready for
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the 21st or you know yesterday
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but um this is what what’s driving them
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is these
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these uh false positives what what is in
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your opinion that they’re actually
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amplifying with that tool
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well you know it’s uh it’s really
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difficult to say
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um because one thing is that with
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so the pcr is not a test what it really
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is is a manufacturing technology because
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it can take
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very tiny amounts of dna or rna
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and turn them into really really large
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amounts
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okay you know like if we had a pcr that
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worked on
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objects like we would be really wealthy
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right like imagine you take your you buy
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a new car and you take that and put it
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through this machine and then
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you know a few cycles later you have
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1032 cars
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right because it works by doubling so
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each round
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of the pcr uh manufacturing
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you double the number of things so like
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if you start with one
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right then you have two and then you
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have four after two rounds and it seems
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like you’re not making that much
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progress
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but you know then it goes up quickly
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because you know it goes from four to
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eight to 16 32
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64 128 256 you see right now
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now we’re gonna when we get to 1028 then
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it’s going to go
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instantly to 2000. so the more these
20:40
cycles you do
20:41
you end up with really really huge
20:43
numbers
20:44
and it’s not each time it uses this
20:48
enzyme uh called attack polymerase and
20:50
it’s a special
20:51
thing that it causes the dna to make a
20:54
copy of itself
20:56
but it does it only at a certain
20:58
temperature so they
20:59
put it to the right temperature it
21:00
copies then they they change the
21:03
temperature and it turns off
21:04
right and that’s how they each cycle
21:07
they do that so it doubles each time
21:09
now one thing is that that enzyme
21:12
actually makes mistakes
21:14
it’s not perfect okay
21:17
and there’s a lot of imperfections in
21:19
there so when you get up to the big
21:21
numbers of amplification
21:23
you end up just seeing background noise
21:26
right again
21:27
like like the inventor of the test said
21:29
that
21:30
you know if you crank up enough
21:32
amplification that you could see
21:34
any sequence that exists in the world
21:39
right and um that’s one of the things
21:42
that they’re doing to get positive tests
21:44
so it’s uh widely accepted that
21:48
if you go more than 35 times or 30 times
21:52
by most people
21:53
of doubling right those are called
21:55
cycles or a cycle threshold they’ll use
21:57
all these fancy words to confuse you
22:00
that if you go more than 30 or 35 you’re
22:02
just basically
22:04
showing noise junk like
22:07
not something that’s really there and in
22:09
the uk
22:11
they use 45. so they use 10 more cycles
22:14
than the maximum so that ensures that
22:17
basically a lot of the positives are
22:18
just junk they’re totally meaningless
22:20
like
22:21
it’s not a real it doesn’t show a
22:24
sequence of anything
22:25
no it doesn’t and that’s the that’s the
22:27
problem that they’ve got because
22:29
most of the people who who are testing
22:31
positive are
22:32
are asymptomatic but they’re being
22:34
tested because they they’ve had to for
22:36
their job
22:37
you’ve voluntarily gone out of text and
22:41
you know it is causing all sorts of
22:43
problems right
22:44
so the people who are agreeing to do
22:46
those tests they’re actually
22:48
causing this problem like they may not
22:50
realize it
22:51
and that’s why i’m saying it it’s very
22:53
important to know because every time you
22:55
submit to a test
22:56
not only are you putting yourself in
22:58
harm’s way and i can explain that in a
23:00
moment
23:01
but you’re actually driving the lockdown
23:03
policies and the curfews and
23:05
all of the restrictions if you simply
23:08
just say no thank you
23:09
then they can’t report cases because
23:12
people aren’t actually sick
23:14
exactly but even if people are
23:16
symptomatic
23:17
still a test is meaningless yeah it’s
23:20
still measuring junk right it doesn’t
23:21
correlate with any
23:23
cause of an illness the person just
23:25
happens to be ill the same way that they
23:27
were
23:28
in 2019 or 2018 or 2017
23:32
and if there is anything new in any
23:35
particular area
23:36
which there could be um it’s most likely
23:38
related to some kind of
23:40
environmental change like some kind of
23:43
pollution
23:44
or you know new product or you know etc
23:48
things like that or new technology or
23:51
new vaccine
23:52
um you know those are the things that
23:54
would cause new presentations and that’s
23:56
you know we’ve really seen that
23:58
over the last century we’ve seen in a
24:00
great expansion in the number of new
24:02
diseases and notice how none of these
24:04
new diseases have any explanation of
24:06
what causes them
24:08
and this is really most of them are
24:10
caused by vaccines
24:13
absolutely this is this is you know even
24:15
cancer cancer
24:17
skyrocketed after the onset of mass
24:19
vaccination but
24:20
even so you just talking about the
24:22
illness that we’re seeing today and that
24:24
the chronic
24:25
disease that we are seeing even when i
24:27
was a youngster
24:29
i don’t even remember and i’m 37 so you
24:32
know when i was a child
24:33
i don’t remember um hearing about anyone
24:37
who had alzheimer’s for example
24:39
and yet now here i am three decades
24:41
later with
24:42
it appearing and not only appearing in
24:44
in
24:46
huge numbers but in younger and younger
24:48
people
24:49
can you explain from your your point of
24:52
view doctor what that could
24:53
be you know relationship vaccines
24:56
well the you know the disease areas that
24:59
have the strongest
25:02
association to vaccines and that also
25:05
respond to
25:06
um you know natural healing strategies
25:10
that would
25:12
basically be related to metal
25:14
detoxification
25:15
and things like that are in and i would
25:18
say
25:18
kind of three general areas you know
25:20
which is um
25:22
the neurologic diseases the autoimmune
25:26
diseases
25:26
and cancer and so the neurological
25:30
diseases you see
25:31
many children with issues like
25:34
encephalopathy encephalitis
25:36
sometimes those things are fatal and a
25:39
lot of autism and other
25:41
neurodevelopmental
25:43
related issues and perhaps some anxiety
25:45
and
25:46
mood related issues as well but then you
25:49
see all this neurodegenerative disease
25:52
and you’re right it does seem to occur
25:54
in younger and younger people and the
25:55
prevalence
25:56
incidence is increasing substantially
25:58
which is you know things like
26:00
parkinson’s disease multiple sclerosis
26:03
and alzheimer’s and other dimensions
26:07
so absolutely um you know that there’s a
26:09
big causal relationship and
26:11
those things were you know just uh
26:13
practically non-existent in the past and
26:16
you know some things like autism were
26:18
non-existent um in the past and there’s
26:21
you know that’s well documented in the
26:23
historical and scientific record
26:25
yeah absolutely you know and again in
26:28
africa with bill gates he took autism to
26:32
africa with his vaccination programs
26:34
they
26:35
you know they’re huge and he has such a
26:37
huge
26:38
impact and influence on this whole thing
26:40
you know
26:41
um is quite frightening really but
26:44
this is you’re right the vaccines are
26:46
causing
26:47
something like i’d never you know
26:49
looking historically and we may have had
26:51
some you know
26:52
disease diseases back then but you know
26:54
we our living conditions
26:56
everything was different lack of
26:57
nutrition you know lack of um
27:00
you know poor sanitation poor living
27:02
conditions there are so many
27:03
contributing factors to to how disease
27:07
arises anyway
27:08
you know and and then but then when you
27:11
i i often wonder if they haven’t
27:13
brought in vaccines when they did
27:16
what type of world we’d be living in if
27:18
i’m honest doctor
27:20
with all of the all of the things that i
27:22
see arising from it is shocking
27:24
well catherine i think you know one
27:26
really interesting thing to look at
27:28
would be the research of western a price
27:31
uh who was uh you know a dentist and you
27:33
know maybe a forensic odontologist
27:35
at least did that kind of research and
27:38
so you know he was alive a while ago
27:40
but he did this really interesting
27:42
research looking at the
27:44
dental fossil records okay like skulls
27:47
and jaws and teeth
27:49
of uh people around the world uh from
27:52
pre-industrial times
27:54
uh compared to industrial times and you
27:57
know noticing the difference
27:58
and you know the main difference was
28:02
nutrition changed substantially with the
28:05
industrial revolution because for the
28:06
first time you have like large-scale
28:08
manufacturing of food and agriculture
28:11
and so prior to that you know what he
28:15
found in
28:15
almost every culture and even you know
28:17
without having toothbrushes
28:19
and fluoride and dentists okay we’re
28:22
talking about like in indigenous peoples
28:23
too like
28:24
aboriginals and other places that people
28:27
had
28:28
bigger jaws so in other words they could
28:31
accommodate all their teeth
28:33
including the wisdom teeth and that was
28:34
another thing that people’s wisdom teeth
28:36
grew in they didn’t have to get them
28:39
removed like
28:41
you know we almost all do now i don’t
28:43
even wonder that just to stop you there
28:45
doctor i was talking about this the
28:46
other day because
28:48
i’ve still got my wisdom teeth the
28:51
event they come through maybe once every
28:53
eight
28:54
years to give me a little bit of but
28:56
then they settle down and i often
28:57
wondered why
28:58
were we born with these teeth if they’re
29:00
supposed to be removed
29:02
so you’re going to tell me well no i
29:04
mean of course our bodies are designed
29:07
very carefully we’re supposed to have
29:08
everything that we have right
29:11
and i know that medicine sometimes tells
29:13
us certain things are expendable you
29:15
know like your appendix and your
29:16
gallbladder and your tonsils
29:19
for a reason right it’s there for a
29:21
reason yeah absolutely all these things
29:23
are there for a reason even our wisdom
29:24
teeth
29:25
and so this line of research really
29:29
uncovered
29:30
you know that proof that okay they were
29:32
meant to be there and they
29:33
did fit you know and this it’s the same
29:36
thing with the rest of your mouth
29:37
because what do you you know why are
29:39
people’s teeth crooked it’s because
29:42
there’s not
29:42
the jaw is not big enough right and
29:44
people have crowding in their mouths
29:45
this is almost always the case
29:48
and as a result of that they actually
29:50
pull teeth out
29:51
and then they use braces to straighten
29:53
but looking at these people
29:55
pre-industrial uh revolution
29:59
what was found was that they had
30:01
straight teeth
30:02
and they they didn’t have orthodontists
30:04
you know
30:05
and it’s because they had enough room to
30:06
accommodate all the teeth so they grew
30:08
in straight
30:09
and interestingly there were only a
30:11
couple of isolated areas where he found
30:14
people with tooth decay and it was areas
30:17
where they had
30:18
some kind of really sweet fruit in
30:21
abundance
30:22
that they ate in abundance and that
30:23
caused uh tooth decay but these were you
30:25
know very isolated areas
30:27
virtually everywhere else not the case
30:29
like no substantial tooth decay
30:32
yeah so he was able to uncover that
30:34
there were three nutritional factors
30:36
that were
30:37
missing in the modern diet that
30:39
accounted for the difference
30:41
and he was able to know that two of them
30:44
were vitamin a and vitamin d
30:46
but the third one was uh he was unable
30:49
to determine at that time
30:50
but sometime around 20 years ago or so
30:54
new research uncovered that it was
30:55
vitamin k2
30:57
which was previously not really known
31:00
or classified as a vitamin and it’s
31:03
involved
31:04
in you know bone growth and regulation
31:06
and remodeling
31:08
and and you only get it from grass-fed
31:12
animals
31:13
or certain some fermented um
31:17
vegetables but not things that you would
31:19
have eaten in our culture
31:21
like natto which is uh these
31:23
foul-smelling fermented soybeans
31:26
but but you know from grass-fed uh
31:28
butter and cream
31:29
and meat which would have been the
31:31
traditional way that
31:33
you know people would have eaten meat
31:38
right but then when they started raising
31:42
animals in large-scale agriculture they
31:45
started feeding them corn and soy right
31:48
because those were cheaper
31:49
and then the animals don’t have any k2
31:53
in their meat and dairy so
31:56
you know this is one of the things that
31:58
becomes uh deficient
32:00
yeah and there’s been a big issue with
32:02
the you know the
32:03
how food has become over the last 100
32:06
years well especially sort of since the
32:08
process food industry
32:10
um kicked off you know you’ve got that
32:12
sort of side of it as well you know it
32:14
dependent on
32:16
your environment then as well is is
32:19
important and
32:20
and also the mind but talking about this
32:22
now just
32:23
while we’re on this subject be a good
32:24
idea to perhaps
32:26
go into the terrain theory a little bit
32:28
and and worry your
32:30
what are your views on the terrain
32:32
theory
32:33
bishop well uh you know the terrain
32:36
theory is uh
32:37
of a contrasting theory to the germ
32:39
theory
32:40
which you know in my opinion there
32:43
really has not been any empirical
32:45
evidence
32:45
that supports germ theory and and uh
32:47
there’s been a lot of
32:49
medical industry based on it but um i
32:52
don’t feel that it’s
32:53
produced any meaningful outcomes
32:56
and that it’s you know something that we
32:58
should really toss aside
33:00
now terrain theory is something that
33:03
actually we’re all familiar with already
33:05
because we know about the microbiome
33:08
and uh you know at least uh we
33:11
acknowledge that there are
33:12
microorganisms in our gut that are
33:15
really
33:16
helpful in fact absolutely necessary to
33:18
our
33:19
our ability to thrive and even survive
33:22
and
33:23
you know in mainstream experiments it’s
33:25
even been shown that
33:26
um dna sequences from bacteria that live
33:29
in our gut
33:30
are in our brain cells okay
33:34
so you know this make people say the gut
33:36
drain axis
33:37
yeah uh right they’re really talking
33:40
about these microorganisms
33:42
so these play a vital role but they’re
33:44
not just present in our gut they’re
33:45
actually present throughout our body
33:48
um and they our body can call on them
33:52
for various purposes to help with
33:55
situations and this is really
33:56
terrain theory so if you just take what
33:59
we you already are
34:00
comfortable knowing about the gut
34:02
microbiome and
34:03
extend it out to its logical conclusion
34:06
you basically have
34:07
terrain theory now uh baishom
34:10
uh antoine basham a french scientist a
34:14
very accomplished uh scientist who was
34:16
sort of known as the nemesis to louis
34:18
pasteur
34:19
and pasteur actually plagiarized some of
34:21
his work and
34:22
and copied some of his experiments and
34:24
tried to take credit
34:26
but uh baishon was just basically you
34:28
know hard at work
34:30
and he took things a lot further
34:33
than what you know pasteur did with his
34:36
alleged derm theory experiments
34:38
and ended up uh discovering what he
34:41
called microzymas
34:42
which is the basic of the the
34:45
cleomorphism
34:46
uh related to terrain theory
34:49
and so what he noticed is basically that
34:53
if animals were you know killed but not
34:57
exposed to any outside
35:00
bacteria or microorganisms they still
35:02
decomposed
35:04
right so they basically had bacteria
35:06
inside them now we you know already kind
35:08
of know about this because they have the
35:09
gut bacteria
35:10
but actually he took this a step further
35:12
and noticed that
35:14
if you look under the right kind of
35:16
microscope where you can observe living
35:17
cells
35:18
that’s called a dark field microscope so
35:20
you could look at like live blood and
35:22
other cells
35:23
under this while they’re still living
35:25
and you can observe behavior
35:27
that he saw these small specks of light
35:29
coming out of blood cells
35:31
and that these actually develop into
35:34
various species
35:35
of microorganisms and he termed them
35:38
microzyma
35:40
but other scientists who followed up on
35:42
this research had different names
35:44
like somatids uh was one of the other
35:46
names
35:48
and protips was yet another name and
35:51
but basically these are like the the
35:54
stem cells if you will for
35:56
microorganisms and they come
35:58
out of our own cells and so in the
36:01
terrain theory
36:02
what you how you’d understand an illness
36:05
would be that you would have
36:06
some acute insult right that damages
36:09
tissue somewhere in your body so this
36:11
could be
36:12
like from a toxic material
36:16
it could be from a nutritional
36:17
deficiency
36:19
right and something damages the tissue
36:21
like even like a blood clot
36:23
blocking the blood flow like what a
36:24
heart attack is right then it damages
36:26
the tissue of the heart
36:28
so that’s the acute phase of the illness
36:31
and then
36:32
your body calls on these particles these
36:35
microzyma
36:36
to develop into just the right species
36:39
of bacteria
36:40
or fungus to go to that site where the
36:43
injury occurred
36:44
and clean it up because they’ll be
36:47
damaged tissue they’ll be debris
36:49
right basically bacteria are the cleanup
36:52
crew
36:52
in nature right we’ve all observed this
36:54
like if we have a compost pile you know
36:56
right your compost is taking the waste
36:58
and cleaning it up turning it back
37:00
into nutrients that can feed more plants
37:04
and that’s exactly what’s happening in
37:05
your body so you know so you
37:08
inhale uh you know toxic materials over
37:11
the course of a year they get stuck in
37:12
the little
37:13
cilia and other parts in your
37:14
respiratory system and then
37:16
when cold and flu season come the the
37:19
environmental
37:20
cue of decreased humidity and
37:22
temperature trigger your body to
37:24
clean out all that stuff right so it
37:27
calls in
37:28
the cleanup crew so bacteria come and
37:32
they
37:32
you know eat up the toxins and the
37:34
debris and they make
37:36
waste too when they do this right and
37:38
their waste makes you have symptoms
37:41
so it causes the swelling and the
37:42
secretions like all the snot and phlegm
37:45
um and you know coughing and sneezing
37:48
and that actually helps your body get
37:50
rid of the waste products right from the
37:53
tissue damage so it’s it’s helpful in
37:55
the healing process
37:57
yeah okay often you know misinterpret
38:00
and again it boils down to
38:02
the germ theory but misinterpret those
38:05
symptoms as being some
38:06
as being the actual disease but in
38:09
reality
38:10
it’s your cure from the disease yes um
38:13
you know and our bodies are absolutely
38:15
remarkably
38:16
complicated but quite simple i think
38:19
that it repels the mind
38:21
to most people that that would even be
38:23
the case but in
38:25
my case i think we all subconsciously
38:27
know that you know eating
38:29
poor you know eating bad food will make
38:32
a sale there is a subconscious feeling
38:34
from most people
38:35
there’s just no connection there because
38:37
of the germ theory is so heavily heavily
38:40
used in the medical industry for
38:43
and actually without the germ theory the
38:46
vaccine industry especially
38:48
would would fall flat on its face well
38:51
there are many things that could
38:52
collapse the
38:53
vaccine but certainly if if germ theory
38:56
is false which
38:57
i believe it is then there’s no basis
38:59
for vaccine
39:00
related immunity but also if the
39:04
immunity from liability for vaccine
39:06
manufacturers was repealed
39:08
then also vaccines would collapse
39:10
because their
39:11
manufacturers would not be able to stay
39:13
in business with all the people suing
39:15
them after they’re
39:16
injured or dead well that’s how it
39:18
started in the first place wasn’t it
39:19
because they couldn’t keep because they
39:21
were
39:21
liable at one point pre-1986 they were
39:24
liable
39:25
went to congress they were paying too
39:27
much money out in lawsuits so then they
39:29
brought in the um
39:31
the vaccine injury act in 1986 and then
39:34
this is when they took they obviously
39:36
take no lie and i don’t think i don’t
39:39
think many people are even
39:40
although i’ve been shouting it for a
39:42
long time i don’t think people really
39:44
understand how
39:45
how this works in terms of you know i
39:47
think they’re the only
39:48
other the nuclear war and acts of god
39:51
the
39:51
the only industry that you can’t get
39:54
insurance for i guess or you know you
39:57
can’t
39:57
it’s ridiculous and and that should be a
39:59
huge red flag actually in people’s minds
40:03
yeah absolutely but you know the the
40:06
truth of the matter is is that people
40:07
don’t investigate
40:09
these things at all they just rely you
40:12
know on the mainstream media and the
40:13
mainstream media is funded by
40:16
the vaccine industry they’re one of
40:18
their largest advertisers so they’re
40:19
never going to
40:20
tell you the truth about these things
40:22
and you know it’s up to you really to
40:24
find out on your own but yeah absolutely
40:26
i mean if you
40:28
were a businessman or an attorney
40:31
and you had a keen understanding of what
40:33
immunity from liability meant
40:35
in terms of how you could operate and
40:38
you and you knew this was true about
40:39
vaccines well you would
40:41
instantly uh be extremely skeptical
40:44
well absolutely what you’re asking me to
40:47
do what
40:48
right well wait a second you know
40:51
because essentially you’re giving the
40:52
business a license
40:54
to take any shortcut for safety that
40:57
they want that’s going to increase their
40:58
bottom line
40:59
because they don’t have to worry about
41:01
it so if they accidentally you know
41:04
put you know ten times as much mercury
41:07
and a hundred thousand vaccines and then
41:09
they discover it
41:10
um in their quality control but it would
41:13
cost them you know let’s say a million
41:15
dollars if they had to throw those away
41:17
and they would make 10 million dollars
41:19
if they sold them
41:21
and they they couldn’t get sued so they
41:24
would just sell them
41:25
right and not tell anyone and then those
41:27
people who got injured from it
41:30
tough on them yeah right
41:34
so you or i would never do that
41:38
for profit right but we are not running
41:41
pharmaceutical companies and the people
41:44
who are
41:45
shown time and time again that they will
41:47
do things like this without
41:49
you know with impunity really yeah yeah
41:52
and
41:52
you know and even it’s just since 1986
41:56
especially because i was born in 1983
41:58
so i had i think 10 doses of about four
42:02
vaccines
42:03
but 1986 obviously it’s directly in line
42:06
of when they were given that liability
42:08
is when the vaccine schedule started to
42:10
rise very quickly
42:12
and so the autism rates you know that
42:15
they do go lying in line as well as
42:17
other other neurological damage
42:19
but in terms of them not taking in this
42:21
this new covid vaccine
42:24
i mean they’re openly stating that
42:25
they’re not giving any results data
42:28
they’re not testing it
42:29
they haven’t tested it on pregnant women
42:32
they haven’t tested it on those with
42:33
medication they haven’t tested it for
42:35
infertility
42:36
you know they’re telling us here that
42:39
and they’re also saying that oh they’re
42:41
not actually taking any um
42:43
liability either you know they’re
42:45
telling us
42:46
pretty much in the in the media here and
42:48
people are still very very trusting of
42:50
it but
42:51
you know what would you say about the
42:52
covid vaccine in terms of what you’ve
42:54
seen so far dr kaufman well you know
42:58
there’s so many uh things to say and
43:00
you’re right
43:02
they do have immunity from liability and
43:04
by the way so do the manufacturers of
43:06
the testing kits
43:07
oh i didn’t know yes pretty much
43:11
any covid related product um you know
43:14
it’s
43:15
it’s a windfall for the industry because
43:17
no liability for anyone
43:19
um so you can make a test kit that
43:22
doesn’t even
43:23
do what you say and you’re totally fine
43:27
it’s absolutely crazy so um with the
43:30
vaccine though
43:33
what you have is a
43:36
situation where there are is no disease
43:39
to even justify a vaccine
43:41
and then of course there’s no virus to
43:43
link to a disease
43:45
so you know what could is the vaccine
43:48
what’s the purpose of it you know it’s
43:50
not what
43:50
is revealed and of course that this is
43:54
by far
43:54
the fastest time for a vaccine to market
43:57
that’s ever occurred there was
43:59
one other rush of a vaccine um
44:02
that was four years i think it was for
44:04
mumps that was that was the record
44:07
before this and this is four times
44:09
faster
44:10
and it’s a brand new technology it
44:12
doesn’t work like any other vaccines
44:14
so there’s more unknowns with it
44:17
and i think you know you mentioned that
44:20
many
44:20
corners were cut right and that there
44:22
was so there’s
44:24
actually the safety testing is ongoing
44:26
right now even though the vaccine is
44:28
authorized it’s not approved authorized
44:30
for emergency use
44:32
the the initial study that had the data
44:35
is ongoing it’s two years
44:37
so it’s not even completed but they they
44:40
did not do
44:41
animal studies which normally the you do
44:44
animal studies before
44:45
you do human studies um and mostly you
44:48
know you’re looking for toxicity and
44:50
when they tried to develop similar
44:52
vaccines for sars and mers
44:55
in the animal studies they were so toxic
44:57
that they abandoned the vaccine
44:59
technology
45:00
so here they specifically skipped the
45:03
animal
45:04
trials and you know that that
45:07
very likely would have shut the whole
45:09
thing down if they had done them
45:11
um so it’s very strategic and very
45:13
telling that they they don’t want
45:15
a whiff of toxicity to you know and then
45:18
the trial design like for the pfizer was
45:21
that they didn’t
45:22
count any coveted symptoms in the
45:24
vaccine group
45:25
until after the second injection was
45:29
given
45:30
but yet they had large numbers of people
45:32
who developed coveted symptoms
45:34
after the first injection like almost
45:37
like it caused
45:38
the infection but none of those were
45:40
counted in the outcomes
45:42
so in other words you know i mean you
45:45
can say a lot of things about that
45:47
so-called 90 percent effective rate but
45:50
uh one of the things is it doesn’t even
45:52
count that so
45:53
it’s inflated in many ways also it’s
45:56
it’s not
45:57
really a true number because that’s the
45:59
relative risk
46:01
reduction so we’re talking about a very
46:04
very small number of people in this
46:05
trial and they didn’t
46:07
even need to have symptoms they could
46:08
have just had a positive test
46:10
and it’s saying that you know this
46:13
relative
46:14
risk reduction is 95 percent but that’s
46:17
you know
46:17
doesn’t if since there were only a small
46:20
number of people in the
46:21
trial that had a positive test at all
46:26
if you’re you’re most likely to be one
46:28
of those people who don’t have a
46:29
positive test so in that case the
46:30
vaccine would be of zero benefit
46:32
to you so it’s not that like 95
46:36
of the people are going to be
46:39
you know it’s going to be effective for
46:42
if you look at it that way then you you
46:45
calculate what’s called the absolute
46:46
risk reduction
46:48
and it’s something like 0.8 percent
46:51
so in other words for any average person
46:54
if you take the vaccine you’re 0.8
46:56
less likely to have severe symptoms
47:00
of that illness if you get it according
47:02
to what they say
47:03
and because it only reduces the severity
47:06
of the symptoms so it doesn’t prevent
47:07
the illness
47:08
you know it and they say they don’t know
47:11
if it prevents the transmission
47:13
so so even by stretching all this data
47:17
and fudging these procedures of how they
47:19
do it and also
47:20
hiding the adverse events which i’ll get
47:23
to in a second
47:24
they still can’t demonstrate that it’s
47:26
really beneficial and you know this is
47:28
why
47:28
people like fauci say that even after
47:31
the vaccine we still have
47:32
still up to social distance to have to
47:34
wear masks still have to lock down so
47:36
won’t actually
47:37
change anything or return anything to
47:39
normal you know so why would you
47:40
possibly take it there’s no benefit
47:43
uh tangible benefit from it but on the
47:46
other side
47:47
they have done a great deal to
47:50
mask the you know the side effects or
47:53
the adverse effects
47:55
and one trick that they use and they do
47:57
this in other vaccine studies
47:58
is that they don’t give a true placebo
48:01
instead they give another vaccine or
48:04
all of the ingredients from the vaccine
48:06
except for the one
48:08
you know piece of the virus or something
48:11
um and so since all most of the toxicity
48:14
comes from those other
48:16
they call adjuvants so they’re not like
48:18
inert ingredients
48:20
you know that they add like you know a
48:22
little bit of uh
48:23
you know salt for example that would be
48:25
a nerd that they would just use to
48:27
buffer the solution or something
48:28
like these are things that they say are
48:30
necessary for the vaccine to work so
48:32
they’re actually
48:33
active ingredients so the idea of a
48:36
placebo is that you separate the active
48:38
ingredients
48:39
out and in the placebo you have none of
48:42
the active ingredients
48:43
right so it should be basically a deluxe
48:46
an injection of saline or salt water
48:48
it shouldn’t contain anything but in the
48:50
this trial they use the
48:51
menin meningitis vaccine
48:55
so they had people die in both groups
48:58
actually
48:59
and you know they only recruited healthy
49:00
people to be in this trial
49:02
so these were not like sick people dying
49:04
anyway that died these were healthy
49:06
people
49:07
that died during after getting a vaccine
49:09
and people died
49:10
in both arms and so they said
49:13
you know basically because of that it’s
49:15
not from the vaccine but actually it’s
49:17
from the vaccine in both arms because
49:19
they both got vaccines
49:21
exactly exactly so you know all the
49:24
tricks like that
49:25
and uh you know or like the they had a
49:28
meeting in october
49:30
the fda and the cdc and all their you
49:32
know
49:33
top people to talk about how they’re
49:36
going to monitor for
49:37
adverse effects once the vaccine gets
49:39
rolled out
49:40
and they give this list of all the
49:42
things they expect and it’s
49:44
just amazing it’s like you know
49:46
everything that could kill you
49:47
or cause lifelong disability you know
49:51
things that were similar
49:52
to multiple sclerosis
49:55
similar to polio different ways you
49:58
could get paralyzed or have
49:59
meningitis or encephalitis autoimmune
50:02
disease
50:03
heart attacks birth defects
50:07
and pregnancy complications autoimmune
50:10
disease
50:11
kawasaki disease in children
50:14
you know everything horrible
50:17
and they’re like that’s what they expect
50:19
to find
50:21
you know so for no real benefit
50:24
and then the possibility of all these
50:26
horrific um
50:28
health consequences you know you it just
50:32
it does it’s not rational or logical to
50:34
decide to get this vaccine
50:36
if you actually look at the information
50:38
yeah that’s the thing
50:40
is is that you know and a lot of these
50:42
are actually very similar to other
50:44
vaccines and what
50:45
they can actually do and i think you
50:47
know people have to
50:48
realize that every time you take a
50:50
vaccine there is a very real risk of
50:52
injury or death
50:53
every single time you take one you know
50:56
it’s like playing a game of russian
50:57
roulette and and like you say that there
50:59
is no
51:00
to me anyway over my years there is
51:03
absolutely no benefit to a vaccine
51:05
based you know is based on germ theory
51:07
but that aside
51:08
trying to poison something outside to
51:11
trying to poison
51:12
something that outside of your body you
51:15
know trying to get rid of something in
51:16
your body with another poison
51:19
sounds ridiculous you know and and
51:22
to think that all of these and it’s huge
51:26
you know i think
51:27
vase which is oh you know over where you
51:30
are i think it’s something it’s
51:31
not one percent of reports because i
51:34
i saw that it’s something like and this
51:36
would make sense
51:38
doctors under report vaccine damage by
51:41
something like
51:42
90 percent that’s quite a scary
51:46
scary figure there would you agree with
51:49
that in
51:50
or well the department of health and
51:52
human services in the us who is like the
51:54
uh
51:55
department that the cdc is part of they
51:57
funded
51:58
harvard uh professors researchers to
52:02
look at the vares database which is the
52:05
voluntary
52:05
reporting system in the united states
52:07
for you know
52:08
injuries from vaccines and they
52:12
concluded after looking at their large
52:14
health system
52:16
that um the bears database contains
52:19
less than one percent of the actual
52:22
vaccine-related injuries and deaths
52:24
and at that point the hhs actually shut
52:27
down the research
52:30
and so they never followed it up or had
52:32
a scientific publication
52:34
but um you know if you extrapolated
52:38
what’s in theirs to you know times 100
52:41
you’d find huge
52:42
huge numbers but the thing is it’s like
52:44
most doctors like i
52:46
went to medical school and i did
52:47
pediatrics rotations and
52:49
you know where vaccines was emphasized
52:52
as something we had to learn about and
52:54
follow up on and i was never told about
52:57
varus database i was never told about
52:59
side effects from vaccines at all
53:01
other than you know pain at the
53:03
injection site and maybe
53:05
a mild fever you know that day
53:08
right other than that not not told
53:11
anything about guillain-barre syndrome
53:13
or autoimmune disease or
53:16
even not even told what’s in the vaccine
53:18
that there
53:19
are heavy metals in there and
53:21
polysorbate 80
53:22
and you know all kinds of other
53:24
chemicals
53:26
and dna foreign dna and such so you know
53:29
really just a
53:30
a kind of a lack of education
53:34
i think that’s what well the issue is
53:36
with especially from my point of view
53:38
because
53:38
you know i’m just a researcher i’ve got
53:40
a very good memory i’ve been researching
53:42
a long time but in terms of any medical
53:44
degree or or qualification then
53:48
i i don’t have one so it comes into that
53:51
um and i did too you know before this is
53:53
that blind
53:55
assumption that your your doctor has
53:58
done
53:59
all there is to know about vaccines you
54:01
know they must have they must have done
54:02
it in re
54:03
in med school and it’s actually such a a
54:06
misconception isn’t it as you’ve just
54:08
explained you know it comes down from
54:10
the yourselves being sort of you just
54:13
assume again that everything is
54:15
is right and safe and and you know it’s
54:18
the only way they don’t even uh
54:20
you know they don’t even teach us that
54:22
uh like show us
54:24
the actual data that proves that
54:26
vaccines are affected
54:28
because there really it there is none
54:30
like if you
54:31
if you look for that um you’ll find you
54:34
know that one there really
54:36
there are no randomized controlled
54:37
trials
54:39
they’re not even required usually to get
54:41
vaccines approved
54:42
and then so that that would be the most
54:45
scientific way to tell
54:47
if vaccines were effective um there’s
54:49
also by the way no long-term studies of
54:51
safety or adverse events
54:55
um so and even though there’s a legal
54:58
obligation
54:58
for those to be conducted they it hasn’t
55:00
been done and they’ve been the
55:01
government’s been sued for not doing
55:03
that
55:04
successfully and they’re still not doing
55:06
it it’s crazy
55:08
so it’s really you know it’s really
55:10
interesting um
55:11
so so you have no randomized controlled
55:13
trials so all you have is epidemiologic
55:16
evidence so in other words you can look
55:17
at how many cases are reported in a year
55:20
and then you can look at when vaccines
55:22
were
55:23
invented and then when vaccines were
55:25
actually administered to the population
55:27
because you know
55:28
a vaccine like this is unprecedented
55:31
with the covet vaccine but in the past a
55:33
new vaccine comes
55:34
out and then it takes several years
55:36
before a significant
55:38
percentage of the population gets it it
55:40
doesn’t happen right away
55:42
so if you look at that data you’ll what
55:44
you’ll see is forever
55:45
all of these big diseases related to
55:47
vaccines even chickenpox this is uh true
55:50
for
55:50
i mean every single one that i’ve looked
55:52
at you’ll see that the disease
55:55
essentially started dropping down and in
55:58
some cases completely went away
56:01
before the vaccine was available or
56:04
widely distributed so
56:07
if if the vaccine you know if the
56:10
disease went away before the vaccine was
56:12
available then the vaccine couldn’t have
56:14
caused it to go away
56:16
and that’s what you see in every case so
56:18
there’s no you know there’s no evidence
56:20
that the vaccines have
56:21
accomplished uh their what they their
56:24
purported benefit is
56:26
so you really don’t have to go any
56:27
further to make a decision about
56:29
vaccines
56:30
but if you do go further you would you
56:32
should really be running away from them
56:35
because you’ll see the amount of injury
56:38
and disease
56:39
uh you know that they’ve caused well
56:42
that’s just it you know
56:43
and is i i’ve been doing this 11 years
56:46
and i’ve met
56:47
thousands of people who have gone away
56:48
and recently and i have net not
56:50
one person that has researched vaccines
56:53
independently
56:55
now one of them i know has ever gone
56:56
back to vaccinating
56:58
i mean that’s got a sort of for the
57:00
other people out there sat on the fence
57:02
maybe he’s gotta you know sort of think
57:04
hang on a minute
57:05
you know why why is this anti-vaccine
57:08
movement
57:09
so huge and why did boris johnson want
57:11
to spend 130 million
57:14
pound of the taxpayers money on um
57:16
shutting people like
57:18
us up absolutely
57:21
yeah no it’s uh you know it’s really uh
57:23
pretty astonishing but you’re absolutely
57:25
right i’ve never met anyone who
57:28
researched vaccines
57:30
and became a proponent of them yeah
57:33
not once has that ever occurred and
57:35
that’s a great way to look at
57:36
issues because you know anything that’s
57:39
like
57:40
that that you know people research and
57:43
always you know get to the same
57:45
conclusion by actually seeing the
57:46
information then that’s
57:48
a really strong uh you know validation
57:51
of the truth
57:52
yeah just before we just before we go
57:55
then
57:55
um uh dr kaufman just as a psychiatrist
57:59
i thought i’d ask you this question
58:01
because at the moment we’re experiencing
58:04
the most
58:06
psychological warfare on a on a degree
58:09
i’ve never
58:10
seen or researched in the past you know
58:12
this time this is taking it
58:14
what do you think the effects are going
58:16
to be unless we
58:17
can turn this around quite quickly you
58:20
know
58:20
long term on children well on us all you
58:24
know
58:25
yeah well you know we’ve already seen
58:27
quite a number of effects if you just
58:29
look at suicide rates for example and
58:31
nothing else
58:33
um you know that can be very much taken
58:36
as a measure of the psychological effect
58:39
not of a real new illness but of the
58:42
um climate of fear that was purposely
58:45
orchestrated right through
58:46
public relations campaign and media
58:50
and then disrupting people’s livelihoods
58:53
and restricting their freedoms i mean
58:55
essentially this will ruin
58:57
the human spirit and i think one of the
59:00
most
59:00
important aspects is social isolation
59:04
right separating people from each other
59:06
creating a culture where
59:08
you’re afraid of your fellow man
59:12
because they will get you sick or kill
59:14
your grandmother
59:16
right or be a threat to your existence
59:18
rather than
59:19
the natural uh relationship uh
59:22
between humans which is you know that of
59:25
we um cooperation community affection
59:30
right um i mean we are social beings we
59:32
need to be around each other we need the
59:34
human touch
59:35
we need eye contact we need to see
59:38
smiling faces
59:39
and without witnessing or being you know
59:42
devoid
59:43
um and deficient in these elements
59:46
uh we become you know empty and change
59:50
and i think when you see children
59:53
developing
59:55
in this type of social culture
59:59
they are not going to know really how to
60:02
form
60:02
appropriate intimate human relationships
60:05
because they’re not going to have the
60:06
experience
60:08
they’re not going to see people’s
60:09
identity they’re going to have problems
60:11
with their own identity knowing who and
60:13
what they
60:13
are right and they are going to have
60:17
problems with communication
60:19
both emotional and language because when
60:22
faces are covered up you miss important
60:25
cues to language to
60:27
um you know recognition to emotional
60:30
expression
60:31
and perception that a whole generation
60:34
is right now you know month after month
60:37
i mean this is not
60:38
two weeks right this is we’re going on a
60:41
year
60:42
that our children have you know we
60:45
we’ve affected their development in a
60:47
negative way already
60:49
by going along with this you know and i
60:52
personally
60:52
spend a lot of my effort trying to
60:54
compensate for that but there’s only so
60:56
much i can do because
60:58
i can’t organize big groups of kids
61:00
because too many
61:02
of the parents are afraid of
61:05
violating the rules you know that
61:07
there’s no like
61:08
the artistic expression is one thing
61:11
that’s suffering
61:12
a big time because we can’t you know
61:15
and my kids are really involved in this
61:17
but there’s no creative group activities
61:20
you know there’s no concerts like this
61:22
holiday time right at my kids
61:25
school they have this big um peace
61:27
celebration and you know it’s like they
61:30
talk about rituals and traditions from
61:32
all over the world and their
61:33
performances and you know last year i uh
61:36
my son and i did a saxophone duet and
61:39
you know
61:40
i mean it’s like this is a great
61:42
experience for expression
61:44
and community and you know they
61:47
like so my kids are not at the school
61:49
anymore because
61:50
of the policies but i know that they
61:54
they had this on you know in a virtual
61:57
ceremony this year where everyone is
61:58
doing like what we’re doing right now
62:00
yeah no that’s just no substitute
62:04
but i feel like the globalist regime
62:07
it wants us to have that as our primary
62:11
social interaction being virtual
62:13
they definitely that’s all that will be
62:16
safe
62:17
and this is you know will be the really
62:19
the end of
62:21
human existence and will become you know
62:24
transhuman in some way
62:27
that’s what it’s doing is you know it’s
62:29
taking away everything it is
62:31
to be human you know and even with our
62:34
our energy and our energetic
62:36
field you know we need to like you say
62:39
you know we’re social beings we need to
62:40
be around and it’s cutting off the soul
62:42
and cutting this
62:43
is quite sad but right well catherine
62:45
you know that’s a
62:46
really excellent point because the uh
62:49
the magnetic field
62:51
of the human heart extends six feet
62:56
yeah right that’s the exact dimension
62:58
that we’re told
62:59
to stay away from each other right just
63:01
beyond reach
63:02
of our heart fields yeah right so this i
63:05
mean
63:06
you know i think it’s it’s important to
63:07
look at it and this more spiritual
63:10
energetic and esoteric way as well
63:12
because you know a lot of this um can be
63:15
interpreted really as ritual in that
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realm
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such as the mask and the initiation
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absolutely yeah yeah this uh
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yeah but you know i i do i do think i
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hope i hope
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i’ve got hope for humanity and i think
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the things you’re doing
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i can’t thank you enough dr kaufman i
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really can’t
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i you know i’m so glad you said yes and
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gave me the opportunity to interview you
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today
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because people are going to absolutely
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love to watch you and i really thank you
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for everything you’re doing
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and um i’d love to speak with you again
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maybe in a few months when things have
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passed on and see
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absolutely catherine you know it was
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pretty evident that you were
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uh you know serious and that you had
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done your homework and you know anyone
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who
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puts in the time to get out truthful
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information i
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definitely want to you know work with so
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i’m glad that uh
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you reached out to me and we had this
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opportunity i’d be happy to check back
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in with you
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thank you so so much and have a lovely
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christmas um
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and hopefully next year we’ll be in a
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little bit of a better position
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yes i i hope for that as well and uh
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everyone out there please enjoy your
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holidays and
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express gratitude for what you do have
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and the people around you who are
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willing
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to uh be close and spend that time
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together
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absolutely absolutely take care dr
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kaufman
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thank you so much my pleasure bye

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